Salt water fly line

Dropper

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Hi
I had my 1st go at salt water fly fishing earlier in the year and managed a bass of 2lb 3oz.


Not bad for the 1st attempt or may-be just beginners luck. I used a salmon line on a 9wt rod which as you could imagine was a bit on the heavy side to cast with a single hander but as it the wind was blowing quite strong it actually helped punch the line into it a bit.
I'm going to get a line which suits the job better and wondered if anyone can give some advice on it. I'm looking at the airflow 40+ intermediate saltwater line. I was also wondering if it would be better using a wt8 rather than a wt9 line.

Thanks
Dave
 

Dropper

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I find it a little bit hard to believe that no one has any experience of saltwater fly lines, or are salt water fly lines unnecessary and any type of fly line will do:confused:. What would be best?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Dave
 
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silverinvicta

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I'd use a 40+, I used to use a shooting head, with amnesia mono shooting line & basket but I find the 40+ ok..(I don't do much in the sea now though, ain't been for ages) :eek:

Si......
 

stig

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Saltwater lines......

Saltwater lines......

I don't think it would make that much difference if it is something that you don't intend to specialise in. I pretty much use the same lines for both Bass and Sea Trout-more often than not in the same session:D I would say it would be better to go a line weight heavier than the rod manufacturer recommends-bearing in mind that you might be using larger/heavier flies and this would aid the turn-over/presentation. I don't know anything much about the 40+ except to say that there have been good reports on this forum. Just one thing though- saltwater has a tendancy to damage line/tackle more quickly than using it in freshwater-even if you do give it a good clean.
 

Dropper

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Thanks lads
I will be doing a bit more in the sea next year targeting sea bass, pollock and mackerel as well as being up the river fishing for sea trout but not all in the same day;).
I think I will go for the 40+ but not sure about casting a 10wt line, I'll may-be just stick with the 9.

Thanks for the help

Dave
 
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silverinvicta

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Is your rod rated 9 Dave ?? I would'nt go overweight with a 40+ ....I do have a couple, I get on fine with them.... It may take a tad of practise though :D
They're a good line imo.

Si....

PS ...It was Pollock i mainly fished for...Get a 4-5 pounder on...Go like stink :eek:
 

outside

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They are a good line, but they are not exactly subtle. They are meant for casting big flies a long way into the wind, which is what you want I suppose
 

Hoppy

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I use a 40+ for my Saltwater work - at times i go with a Cortland Ghost Tip.

As Outside says, not subtle - but they don't half make the difference in distance and at times this is the key when SWFF - some times big casts are needed to reach the fish - love em!

Hoppy:D
 

stig

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Like Hoppy.......

Like Hoppy.......

I go with a ghost tip. I use the 5ft-I can't get on with the 15ft:eek: Rarely use a floater as I don't like the line dragging across the surface. Like Outside says it ain't pretty- but it works:D:D Usually get most hits in the first 10-15ft of the retrieve so the lack of presentation doesn't seem to put the fish off too much:D
 

Dropper

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My rod is a 9 wt Si, I wouldn't have gone heavier than that because I think it would knacker me. I was thinking about getting a 40+ 8# intermediate but I'm not sure that would be enough to load the rod with the whole head out or would it? or may-be I should play safe and just go for the 9# which has its advantages on those windier days.
Thanks for all the input.

D
 
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silverinvicta

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Yeh, stick with the 9 Dave, You wont have any trouble turning a big fly over, I usually used a 6' leader... 12-15lb, You don't need a long one.. You'll knacker yourself more trying to push the 8. And use a basket, especially if you wade, even with a floater.. (I sometimes used a short ghost tip too...)

Si....
 

silver

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lines

lines

hi there i do alot of saltwater fly fishing next year i want to do more over in n.ireland i usally walk the beachs of strangford for seatrout but i also fish for pollock i have my eyes on the rio mainsteam cold water flyline the blue it is a step down from the famous bob clouser cold water line the mainstream retail about £35 and theclouser retails about £69 from america the first line i mention has a short head the lenght of that line is 82 ft with a head of roughly 35 ft to turn over big flys remenber it must say cold water you can get this lines for hot water the clouser is a far better line and i think its 115 ft but a big different in money i am funny about lines yes you can near use any thing even mill ends i hope this helps a bit
 
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silverinvicta

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I used to make all my shooting heads from Mill ends..Excellent value for a knockabout shooting head... ;)

Si.....
 

silver

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heads

heads

yes si i bought some shooting heads not dear ones for the salt water i have never used them before but next year and i put on red amm as backing to but i have bought 2 running lines to try i usually fish a line a bove the weight like say 8/9 i would fish a nine i love fishing for pollack thats i am getting every thing ready i hope for next year
 
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silverinvicta

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I used to fish over heavy Kelp and rock from a rockmark...I had to chuck a decent distance to reach a heavy Kelp bed and with fish diving into it plus sharp rocks I could knacker a line in a season in the salt, hence the cheapo Millends.. I seldom fish there now, well aint for years actually,,I just can't do the walk now.
When i fish the beach, (very occasionaly) though I aim to do more this year, i do like a 40+..

Si....
 

silver

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agree

agree

yes si i know what you mean im 57 with a puncture lung hard to breath but still get there with 2 or 3 stops there is a place what you desribed and it near killed me for breathing if you can poppers just before dark on a floating line white on top of the water trailing across the top the fish come up to the surface and bang it i love fishing and i like chat and the help thats why i going back in to it i do alot of beach fishing the only fishing i dont do is pike no saying that i would go out the odd time i get me lience back next year thats i can get out thats why there is estaurys over here and its full of sandeels thats were we go to get the sandeels for seatrout fishing and fishing allround bait maurice
 
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silverinvicta

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There are no coarse fish except over here, except in a few small pools in the North of the Island, and one just up the road from me... BUT, they are all syndicated and you can't get on em for love nor money..I do have a go for Pike and coarse fishing when i'm in Wales or back in Liverpool..
I suffer from C.O.P.D... Which is why i can't walk far'' The marks are a GOOD walk.I do spend a fair bit of time of the Island each year..
I have a beautiful local beach very close to me, but its mainly small Coalies and L.S.D.s.. When netting for Gibbins (Sandeel) we do pick up a few small Bass and the very occasional Seatrout or Salmon, up to about 4lbs, but i would'nt bother fishing for them, there's not enough now to justify the time spent.
I may do some seafishing over Xmas and New Year, I'm in South Wales then...

Si....
 

otisthedog

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I go with a ghost tip. I use the 5ft- Rarely use a floater as I don't like the line dragging across the surface.
What he said!
I use the 5ft Ghost tip 8wt for most of my bass fishing. It'll turnover a 3/0 popper surprisingly well (short front taper) once you learn to slow down. Most of the ground I fish would see you snagged if you fished any line that 'sinks', but the ghost tip just 'digs in' which helps fishing the north Cornish/West Devon atlantic coast with a good chop running. Used shooting heads etc for a season or two but it's nearly always windy as hell on that coast. Roly poly retrieve is often vital just to keep the line in the stripping basket. With thin running lines blowing about it becomes a nightmare!
I don't worry too much about serious distance all the time. We catch most bass within 20 yards of the shore. Sometimes it helps, agreed, and with good technique it's not a problem with that line.
Have used the Arundell PR 8wt line (midge tip style job) on the rocks - it's also superb casting and turnover wise with big flies but the Cortland has a more 'plasticky' coating so it's a little more durable for those times you drag it against the barnacles.
 
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Corsican Dave

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15' cortland ghost tip, 8 wt for me. have found it ideal for letting a fly hang/swirl in the currents. i fish mostly off rocks on the moray coast, where small to medium sized pollack are the norm. i normally use a 6' level tippet of 8lb, straight to a braided loop. not found the fish too fussy!
 
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