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Teal Blue And Long John Silver

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A minor variation on a very successful theme


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The Dressing

Tube: Eumer small plastic
Thread: Black
Tag: Glo Brite No3
Rib: Broad silver tinsel tied in close turns
Hackle: Scarlet dyed hen - long fibres
Wing: Black dyed fox squirrel tail overlaid with strands of peacock sword
 
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ian1104

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Also, a couple of questions if I may?

1. Any recommendations for a single hook (like in your photo) for tube flies?
2. Which diameter plastic/pvc sleeve do you normally buy for the hook retainer on your tube flies, and where do you source it from?

Cheers
Ian
 

Teal Blue And Long John Silver

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Also, a couple of questions if I may?

1. Any recommendations for a single hook (like in your photo) for tube flies?
2. Which diameter plastic/pvc sleeve do you normally buy for the hook retainer on your tube flies, and where do you source it from?

Cheers
Ian

The single hook in the picture is a Tubeworx tubefly single. Do not go out and buy any as I will stick some in with your swap fly collection when I send them off to you.

The hook in the picture is just rammed up the rear end of the plastic tube on which the fly is dressed. The tube is Eumer plastic tubing which Veniard now distribute. The Eumer tube kits come with a fairly rigid junction tube which I really like. If you go for Veniard'd own junction tubing it is really flexible and can present problems sometimes. Plus the fact the fact that it is really designed for Veniard Slipstream tubes and they are quite fat in terms of diameter. John Gray does some pvc tubing which he supplies with his needle tubes. I also really like this stuff. I will send you some of that also and some lengths of Eumer tubing for you to have a fool around with. If you do not already have one I highly recommend the HMH tube vice. You just stick them in the jaws of your regular vice and they stick a tube like sh it to a blanket. Probably best you get some felting needles for the really small diameter stuff but I will have some spare ones of these and will send you some of these also. The HMH tubefly vice costs about twenty five quid.

A small word of warning. The felting needles are bloody sharp. Please be very careful when you open your bag of stuff :oops:
 

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Here is a link to John Gray's Website with the HMH tool. His stainless steel needle tubing is excellent and dirt cheap too. I will stick a selection of tubes in your bag :)

 
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The single hook in the picture is a Tubeworx tubefly single. Do not go out and buy any as I will stick some in with your swap fly collection when I send them off to you.

The hook in the picture is just rammed up the rear end of the plastic tube on which the fly is dressed. The tube is Eumer plastic tubing which Veniard now distribute. The Eumer tube kits come with a fairly rigid junction tube which I really like. If you go for Veniard'd own junction tubing it is really flexible and can present problems sometimes. Plus the fact the fact that it is really designed for Veniard Slipstream tubes and they are quite fat in terms of diameter. John Gray does some pvc tubing which he supplies with his needle tubes. I also really like this stuff. I will send you some of that also and some lengths of Eumer tubing for you to have a fool around with. If you do not already have one I highly recommend the HMH tube vice. You just stick them in the jaws of your regular vice and they stick a tube like sh it to a blanket. Probably best you get some felting needles for the really small diameter stuff but I will have some spare ones of these and will send you some of these also. The HMH tubefly vice costs about twenty five quid.

A small word of warning. The felting needles are bloody sharp. Please be very careful when you open your bag of stuff :oops:
Wow, thank you TBLJS, that's really kind of you!

I don't have the tube vice, I have the Veniard's adaptor which was around £6... not great, a bit flimsy, but does the job I guess! I may invest in the tubefly vice soon!

Look forward to gettig involved in the swap.

Ian
 

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Where's the teal, blue and silver? The wonderful world of fly tying

Teal Blue And Silver is not a fly that I have personally ever rated much. Seems to be a bit of a Marmite pattern in that anglers that like it seem to absolutely love it. For my own part, although I do tie them for people I rarely fish them if at all ;)
 

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Teal Blue And Silver is not a fly that I have personally ever rated much. Seems to be a bit of a Marmite pattern in that anglers that like it seem to absolutely love it. For my own part, although I do tie them for people I rarely fish them if at all ;)
Comes into it's own very well on a falling spate, especially on smaller sizes (ie #10's - #14's)
 
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For me, given the biochemical changes that occur in a sea trout's eye after it returns from the sea it is more a case of how far up river I am fishing. The further away from the tide I have always believed the colour blue to be less relevant in a fly pattern. This is nor to suggest for one second that anglers should not use blue themed flies if they find them successful. It is merely an explanation of my own thinking and why I choose to not use Teal Blue And Silver's very much. The vast majority of my own fishing is mid river and not usually lower reaches.
 

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Biochemical changes in seatrouts eyes you learn something new every day. 👍

There are far better explained scientific explanations for this than I can offer but in layman's terms blue is obviously a very common colour in a marine environment. It follows nowhere near as relevant when sea trout return to our rivers. Nature's adaptation I suppose ;)
 

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I tried my hand at tying the American Express, I hope it catches fish as easily as it caught me. I like the look of this fly and confidence in your fly goes a long way.

The American Express is a pattern in which I have lots of confidence. I don't know how much confidence you have in your own dressing Andy but personally I would have complete confidence in it. Really nice dressing 😎
 

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I have a couple of questions being new to tying,
Scarlet Hen feathers - are these the Indian cape?
When tying peacock herl do you set them individually or as a bunch? The swords have a distinct profile and will sit on top of each other to give the turn down at the ends for a good profile. Should I be more selective in which sword to use?
Any assistance appreciated,
Andy
 
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